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Phreaddee

Super Moderator
Staff member
haven't they?
I believe you might find that you are mistaken.
if you see any posts that need to be flagged...flag it.
 

Nullified

New Member
yes well thats only the admins you know of :)
again, you are misinformed.
Perception is everything; it doesn't matter what is, but instead what the site's visitors perceive.

showgroups will show all members of usergroups that have the "show on showsgroups" setting to ON and I know that admin groups default this to ON. If a forum's administrator wants to hide the active admins by creating a second admin group and choosing not to show them on the showgroups pages then that is their prerogative; one however that I would never choose to do. I doubt that is the case though and since no proof has been given to me I shall choose to know only what I have seen (perceived). BTW, in case you are misinformed, moderators and super moderators are not admins.
 

Phreaddee

Super Moderator
Staff member
OK you got me on a technicality there.
still remains that if there is something you want to flag then flag it.

there are active members on here (perhaps not with AAA admin privileges) that can and do monitor spam and dodgy posts, and remove accordingly.
 

AsheSkyler

New Member
I wonder... does it really matter if an admin quits a forum if the moderators are still keeping it running smoothly? I understand that admin presence does provide a certain peace of mind, but for matters of policing, are they really that important?

Now if moderators and admins both bail, yeah, we're fooked.
 

Nullified

New Member
Let me ask you this: Would keep doing work with a corporation if the board of directors left the company for the managers and department leads to run? Don't get me wrong, I am not going to stop posting here if the moderators are doing a good job of policing, but there are many tasks involved with a forum that require admin access to complete.

Forum Global Settings - Huge # Sub Sections
Style/Template Modification
Language/Phrase Manager
Moderator Assignment/Permission Adjust
Changing of User Title/Rank/Rep/Infractions/Signature/Avatar SETTINGS
Managing Updates (Security Patches & Plugins/Addons)
Board Maintenance

If the admins are not active on the forum are they actively ensuring that their script versions stay up to date and compliant with new versions of server software that their host installs? What about patches released to prevent security breaches?
 

chrishirst

Well-Known Member
Staff member
This forum is running on vBulletin 3.8.7 which was the last of version vBulletin 3 so there are no more updates.

Also vBulletin is a PAID licence forum, NOT a free "one click install" from Softaculous or Fantastico.
 

Nullified

New Member
This forum is running on vBulletin 3.8.7 which was the last of version vBulletin 3 so there are no more updates.

Also vBulletin is a PAID licence forum, NOT a free "one click install" from Softaculous or Fantastico.

Being a past and present vBulletin board admin I am quite familiar with the licensing options, availability and requirements.

So are you saying that because this board has the latest 3.x build installed that the sever it is hosted on may never upgrade its compilations or that no security patches may need to be conducted?

If the server/site goes down do the moderators have access to the host to report/fix issues or shall we wait for the admin to login and check site functionality?
 

ian

Administrator
Staff member
Let me ask you this: Would keep doing work with a corporation if the board of directors left the company for the managers and department leads to run? Don't get me wrong, I am not going to stop posting here if the moderators are doing a good job of policing, but there are many tasks involved with a forum that require admin access to complete.

Forum Global Settings - Huge # Sub Sections
Style/Template Modification
Language/Phrase Manager
Moderator Assignment/Permission Adjust
Changing of User Title/Rank/Rep/Infractions/Signature/Avatar SETTINGS
Managing Updates (Security Patches & Plugins/Addons)
Board Maintenance

If the admins are not active on the forum are they actively ensuring that their script versions stay up to date and compliant with new versions of server software that their host installs? What about patches released to prevent security breaches?

The vbulletin script is always kept up to date, there have been no recent security patches. I will make an effort to login more frequently though.
 

chrishirst

Well-Known Member
Staff member
The vbulletin script is always kept up to date, there have been no recent security patches. I will make an effort to login more frequently though.

vBulletin 3.8.x reached end of life in March 2011

Extract from the newsletter.
vBulletin eBulletin
http://www.vbulletin.com/
March 29th, 2011
...
---------------------- VBULLETIN 3 MAINTENANCE PACK -----------------------

As vBulletin 3.X and vBulletin Blog are now end of life, we will discontinue offering the vBulletin 3 Maintenance Pack March 31st, 2011, if you wish to update existing licenses, you will need to order this immediately. Both products will still be eligible for patches for known Security Vulnerabilities until their usage has become insignificant. The Maintenance Pack can still be ordered: https://www.vbulletin.com/order/index.php

-------------- NEW VBULLETIN VERSION RELEASED -----------
 

ian

Administrator
Staff member
having used vbulletin 4, it was rubbish, and vbulletin 5 looks even so far, from what I have seen of the beta's.
To be more specific, vbulletin has been kept up to date with any security patches for the 3 series of vbulletin, and a large number of the internetbrands.com owned forums which own vbulletin are still being run on vbulletin 3.8.x
doesnt say much for their confidence on their new products.
 

chrishirst

Well-Known Member
Staff member
having used vbulletin 4, it was rubbish,
I couldn't agree more, we gave it a test drive and unstable, resource hog was the verdict, certainly not worth the cost of a licence. And that was on a VPS with VB4 only running on it, with only half a dozen people allowed access to the test setup.

... and vbulletin 5 looks even [worse?] so far,

Yes, I've read some of the less than complimentary comments on the VB forum.

Come back Jelsoft .. All is forgiven.
 

ian

Administrator
Staff member
their biggest mistake was giving the old UK development team in the UK the flick and being just out for a cash grab and trying to push out a product long before it was ready.
 
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