which is best for me??

Discussion in 'Programming' started by thesoundshark, May 8, 2006.

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  1. thesoundshark

    thesoundshark New Member

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    i have been learning html as sort a base to my web desighn quest what im under tacking is a very difficult task. I intend on hosting the whole site my self untill it becomes to busy for my server.

    i wish to know

    1)what is the best programing lanuage for me to use for my site.
    2)what is the best programing lanuage for the server side.

    i need to include the facillity to text pics and msgs into the site and have them display in the forum as if they where just added from a desktop, in fact i wish to incorporate alot of sms functions into my site ringer downloads and the ability to text from the site.

    Any info on this would be fantastic. links, ebooks or just some advice (apart from that im in over my head) would be great.

    asking alot

    thesoundshark:confused:
     
  2. cdwhalley.com

    cdwhalley.com New Member

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    There are lots of choices of server-side languages. Personally, I would recommend PHP, because it's free, and there are lots of resources about it to be found on the internet, although ASP, JSP etc are perfectly good choices.
    As to your SMS capability, that would be a very complicated idea - beyond the realms of conventional PHP.
     
  3. thesoundshark

    thesoundshark New Member

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    hmmm

    so is there any info at all then that can help me with the sms part of the page
    ???

    I have a gsm modem sorted and ready so just need to figure out how to use it lol
     
  4. cdwhalley.com

    cdwhalley.com New Member

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    I really have no idea, it isn't something I've even thought about before...
     
  5. thrive

    thrive New Member

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    What you need to know is the anticipated volume. You can use a scripting language (php,asp,cfm) if your site is going to stay small. You should think of using a compiled technology (jsp,asp.net) which will allow for much better performance.
     
  6. teamgrowth

    teamgrowth New Member

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    PHP is a server-side scripting language and it can be used on all major operating systems and supports most of the web servers.
     
  7. thrive

    thrive New Member

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    I know this site is php biased and I can support that because you have a pool of people with similar experience (I use it too). But in the interest of education we should recognize the performance abilities of each language. Just thought I'd drop that in.
     
  8. StephanieCordray

    StephanieCordray New Member

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    Actually, thrive, we have an asp guru on board, too. He just doesn't show up very often.
     
  9. timothyb89

    timothyb89 New Member

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    ASP is...
    Well, not thee best. I had set up IIS on my XP Pro install I was never able to connect to some database so no info was ever ssaved aand no installer scripts really worked.
    I'd say, that at the moment, PHP's preformance is not tne best. On my FC5 server machine, loading the main page of an SMF forum takes up 30% of memory, and .91% of the server load (or so it would seem)
    Many places use PHP, but not all servers have enough memory and processor power to actually support many people being on the site at the same time. If you have a webhost, this shouldn't be a problem (avg. server load for loading an SMF page: .30%)
    On another note, not many servers or webhosts support ASP, ASP.NET, CFM, and so on...
    Let alone SMS...
     
  10. ISDProductions

    ISDProductions New Member

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    forget asp its too slow and hard to transport to new servers.

    Learn PHP and MySql (you can thank me later)
    Benefits of PHP and MySql
    FREE
    Quick
    Huge User Base
    Many Free Open Source Scripts
    Supported by virtually all servers
    etc etc etc

    I run tons average sites, and one HUGE site. I use PHP and MYSql Exclusivly on all of them. My Page loads are quick, my visitors are happy.

    One more benefit of PHP. It is easy to learn. If you have a grasp of HTML, PHP will be no problem. Plus there are TONS of free resources to help you on your way
     
  11. timothyb89

    timothyb89 New Member

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    PHP-wise, the preformance is slow, but PHP is supported by most webhosts (free and paid) unlike ASP, and so on.
    All we can hope for with PHP is that the preformance is improved in later releases.
     
  12. zkiller

    zkiller Super Moderator Staff Member

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    asp actually provides simular performance to php. *shrug* cfm on the other hand is quite slow in comparison.

    php is not the wonderdrug you all make it out to be!

    for a large scall project i would recommend looking in the direction of .NET. which is also free and can be run on *nix and windows servers alike thanks to the mono project. another option would be jsp, but java is my arch nemisis, so i can't condone it. :p
     
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  13. zkiller

    zkiller Super Moderator Staff Member

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    being that he mentioned having a GSM modem at his disposal for sending SMS messages from his site, i came to the conclusion that he intends to setup his own server. thus the limitations of a web host would not be a deciding factor. however, i come be wrong and jumped the gun on this one.
     
  14. criean

    criean New Member

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    What to choose?

    HTML is a markup language used to structure text and multimedia documents and to set up hypertext links between documents, used extensively on the World Wide Web while Programming language is the different notations used to communicate algorithms to a computer. Having hard time choosing what programming language to use? Better use the simplest way that you can. PHP is a good suggestion.

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