Need Help in web design. Newbie here

Discussion in 'Web Design' started by Shadez, Dec 6, 2004.

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  1. Shadez

    Shadez New Member

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    Hi!

    I know nothing about web design.

    Want to set up a simple webpage. I tried doing with front page but i dun really know how to use it.

    Need some help here.

    Can someone assist?

    please email me at [email protected]
     
  2. ian

    ian Administrator Staff Member

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  3. Shadez

    Shadez New Member

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    Thank you!

    Hi Ian,

    Thank you!

    Is Frontpage good to use for webdesign ?

    Is there other software that is good for webdesign?

    Thank you!
     
  4. Chroder

    Chroder New Member

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    I wouldn't use FrontPage. Although the newer versions have improved considerably, I still wouldn't use it.

    Try Dreamweaver, probably the most used WYSIWYG (?) editor, and there are plenty of books and tutorials on it.
     
  5. ian

    ian Administrator Staff Member

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    As Chroder said, dreamweaver is better, but if frontpage is all that you have, it is not that bad to get started, and learn with, and grasp the basic concepts of building a website.
     
  6. Shadez

    Shadez New Member

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    Hi Guys,

    Thank you for your advise.

    Guess i have to start with Frontpage first. Not very good with All these.

    Thank you!
     
  7. MatW

    MatW New Member

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    Ey Shadez if you do decide to expand your website and integrate it into you business don't hesitate to contact me at [email protected] :)
     
  8. ldburroughs

    ldburroughs New Member

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    True, Dreamweaver would be a great way to go but the newest version of Frontpage (I think 2003) is a great way to get started on a simple site. It suits my needs very well. I run a simple site to communicate with my friends and relatives in other states and overseas. I haven't updated it in about a week or so but you may have a look if interested for ideas. (www.magpoc.com) It all depends on what you want the site for. Once you become proficient in whichever design program you choose, you need to consider hosting options as well. For me, I do it mainly as a hobby so I like the interface Frontpage provides. Once you get to an advanced level you will want to consider other web authoring programs though. Again, it all depends on what you want to do with your site.
     
  9. zkiller

    zkiller Super Moderator Staff Member

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    ldburroughs, i hope you don't mind, but i took a look at your source. just giving it a quick once over, it does look much cleaner than older versions of frontpage, but there still are quite a few tags that are exesive and un-needed. for instance...

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    <center>
    <center>
    <center>
    <center>
    <center>
    <center>
    <h2><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="4">Thoughts on Disney.</font></h2>
    </center>
    </center>
    
    </center>
    </center>
    </center>
    </center>
    
    but like i said, it does look much better than older versions of frontpage. i am very happy to see that microsoft has finally realized why frontpage has been so undesirable in the past, although i do think they are to late, as they already lost that market to marcomedia for the most part.
     
  10. ldburroughs

    ldburroughs New Member

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    I don't mind at all. I really just wanted to share my experiences with Frontpage. I, like the original person who posted on this thread, had to start somewhere. It fit my needs sufficiently. I am starting to look into others as I am learning more over time. To be honest, I know very little about the source code you were looking at. In fact, I don't know that I have looked at it myself. My level of experience has been with altering some of what Frontpage creates. I do very little, if any, authoring of my own. Mine is just a family site and I have seen worse. Have a great day all!
     
  11. SuperSmash

    SuperSmash New Member

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    Although I have never used FP, my advice would be to start somewhere, preferably very simple (similar to what Idburroughs was saying). I would not recommend starting with DW simply because of the complexity of the software. I would start with some editor that is simple (and therefore limited) simply because it makes design seem far less intimidating to begin with.

    When I first started out someone recommended DW to me and I tried it and could not figure out why they would want to use it, because I could not figure out how to get anything done, not knowing anything about web design in the first place. Initially, I'd recommend starting simple, and then as you decide you need/want more stuff that you couldn't have, or that was tedious to include, you can upgrade and try new software. Become familiar with HTML though, just so you can at least read it, even if you couldn't code something from scratch; it isn't that difficult, and it can help you to save space and fix problems with badly generated code.

    Good luck!
     
  12. Wynnefield

    Wynnefield New Member

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    shadez ...

    do you just need to publish one page or multiple pages?
    is the content static or dynamic? if dynamic, how often will you be making changes?
    is the web server yours or outsourced (some servers are very "querky" about fp)?
    is it personal or business (professional image more important)?

    i would recommend a web design (or html) book and a text editor, unless you have already sunk the investment into fp. i found any tools (wysiwyg or otherwise) much simpler to understand after i learned the underlying code behind the pages i was creating ... and "a simple webpage" sounds like a terrific opportunity to learn a few of the details about the html structure of your page ...

    jmho
     
  13. AmyJNelson

    AmyJNelson New Member

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