HTML5 to be standard by 2014?

[Phreaddee]

Hi, this one is for all those that dont want to learn HTML because they've been told it wont be a standard til 2022!

Projected timeline
May 2011 - Last Call
2014 - Standard

http://www.w3.org/2011/02/htmlwg-pr.html

(note that says may 2011!!!)

so if you are freaking out that you know nothing about html5
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/spec.html

 

[Frank]

You know, Phreaddee, its the same as with the last call for alcohol. There's always another bar still open....

 

[abd_webdesign]

You know, Phreaddee, its the same as with the last call for alcohol. There's always another bar still open....

LOL! True, true! I don't think it will be standard to the point of deprecating a bunch of older code. I just can't see the average small business continuing to revamp their site in this soft economy. But I am excited about HTML 5!

 

[Phreaddee]

sure xhtml1.1 and html4.01 will be valid, just like html3.2 is now, but really...

as for deprecated elements.
<abbr>
<applet>
<basefont>
<big>
<center>
<dir>
<font>
<frame>
<frameset>
<isindex>
<noframes>
<s>
<strike>
<tt>
<u>
<xmp>

and new elements...

<article>
<aside>
<audio>
<bb>
<canvas>
<command>
<datagrid>
<datalist>
<details>
<dialog>
<embed>
<figure>
<footer>
<header>
<hgroup>
<mark>
<meter>
<nav>
<output>
<progress>
<ruby>
<rp>
<rt>
<section>
<source>
<time>
<video>

 

[Nathan Joshua]

For many reasons I'm looking forward to HTML5.

New variations in design
Blogging tutorials and guides on new features and getting a truck load of social feedback
Advertising to potential clients that you build in HTML5


And if you already know 99% of the tags in HTML, this isn't a big list learn

<article>
<aside>
<audio>
<bb>
<canvas>
<command>
<datagrid>
<datalist>
<details>
<dialog>
<embed>
<figure>
<footer>
<header>
<hgroup>
<mark>
<meter>
<nav>
<output>
<progress>
<ruby>
<rp>
<rt>
<section>
<source>
<time>
<video>

 

[manndtp]

I will be loving the day when HTML 5 becomes a standard as much as when the visitors still using IE6 and below die off

 

[henry.row]

HTML 5 will be a standard in 2022 when it's released but you can use some of the released drafts to create great websites. For example, Google Play have used current HTML 5 drafts to change flash support for html 5 audio player. But this drafts are subject to change un the future because they are not the final release.

Also there are new sofware that can help you with the design process and speed up things. I have found a nice one it's called Enerwings, and it's in beta testing now. You can download it in facebook, and it's free.

 

[Phreaddee]

henry you are a fool, that is exactly the response I was initially referring to.
2022 get your hand off it!

 

[Matthew3man]

HTML5 is creeping into use already, with the right backwards compatibility steps taken there is no reason to not use it now. Carefully select which elements you use to ensure maximum browser compatibility. Another selling point for starting now is all the latest mobile platforms will be using HTML5 and CSS3 - worth considering when making websites with responsive web design techniques.

 

[wayback64]

LOL! True, true! I don't think it will be standard to the point of deprecating a bunch of older code. I just can't see the average small business continuing to revamp their site in this soft economy. But I am excited about HTML 5!

In this tough economy, online is the new market for business. Quick question on this. Does html5 work together with PHP?

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[Phreaddee]

Does html5 work together with PHP?

yes of course!

 

[chrishirst]

Quick question on this. Does html5 work together with PHP?

No it does not, HTML5 is a client side markup language, PHP is a server side scripting language.


However; you can use PHP to deliver HTML5 to the user agent, just like php can deliver HTML3.2, HTML4, HTML4.01, javascript, CSS, etc. etc.

 

[Phreaddee]

However; you can use PHP to deliver HTML5 to the user agent, just like php can deliver HTML3.2, HTML4, HTML4.01, javascript, CSS, etc. etc.

Im pretty sure thats what he meant...

 

[chrishirst]

I'm sure it was; however the wording, (and the concept behind the wording) was ambiguous to say the least, as it is for so many people.

 

[leroy30]

Since when was ANY html standard? lol.

No doubt IE will end up deciding the standard; a poor standard that is

 

[chrishirst]

Since when was ANY html standard?

Abolutely true.
There is no "standard" you should use the DTD that suits the coding you intend to use.

It is only developer "snobbery" that makes any anyone use the newest paradigm that the W3c has created or is creating.

No doubt IE will end up deciding the standard; a poor standard that is

Not really, if you want to be 100% browser compatible simply use HTML 4.01 and CSS level 2.1.

Nobody is forcing you as a developer to use the "cutting edge" of HTML and CSS, you are in full control of what you choose to do or use. If you decide to use methods that are not yet supported or still 'buggy' in some browsers, STFU griping about it, you CHOSE that route.
It's a bit like picking a farm track to drive down instead of the tarmac then complaining about the bumpy road!