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AainaA
09-10-2004, 07:10 AM
There's no horizontal bar function here? Hmmm well, do you drink? and if you do, what?


Scientists at the University of California, Davis, have identified another group of chemicals in red wine that is linked to the ability to lower cholesterol. Called saponins, these glucose-based plant compounds are being found in an increasing number of foods. This is the first time they've been found in wine, says Andrew Waterhouse, Ph.D., Professor of Enology (wine chemistry) at the University of California, Davis.

His finding was described today at the 226th national meeting of the American Chemical Society, the world's largest scientific society.

For the most part, the so-called French Paradox — the association between red wine and decreased heart disease — has been attributed to resveratrol, a compound found in grapes, which acts as an antioxidant. But saponins could be just as important.

"Saponins are a hot new food ingredient. People are just starting to pay attention to it," says study leader Waterhouse. "No one ever thought to look for it in wine."

The compounds are believed to come from the waxy skin of grapes, which dissolve into the wine during its fermentation process. To better understand their distribution in wine, Waterhouse conducted a preliminary study of six varieties of California wines — four red and two white — and compared them on the basis of their saponin content.

"Average dietary saponin intake has been estimated at 15 mg, while one glass of red has a total saponin concentration of about half that, making red wine a significant dietary source," the researcher says.

In general, Waterhouse found that red wine contains significantly higher saponin levels than white — about three to ten times as much. Among the red wines tested, red Zinfandel contained the highest levels. Syrah had the second highest, followed by Pinot noir and Cabernet Sauvignon, which had about the same amount. The white varieties tested, Sauvignon blanc and Chardonnay, contained much less.

zkiller
09-10-2004, 01:27 PM
beer please! :D

Chroder
09-10-2004, 06:02 PM
I don't drink! I've never touched a drink. Well, never more then one. Hate the taste...

[tab]
09-10-2004, 09:14 PM
I drink maybe twice a year... like Chroder I hate the taste, I just drink to get drunk :p

ian
09-10-2004, 11:38 PM
If you are referring to alchohol, I never touch alchohol, havent had a drop of alchohol in maybe 15 years, tastes yukky!

Chroder
09-11-2004, 12:04 AM
I like vCoke if we're not talking about alcohol :p

ian
09-11-2004, 12:24 AM
I have never tasted vanilla coke yet, will have to try it, hope its not like that coke with a twist of lemon, that was disgusting.

Chroder
09-11-2004, 02:25 AM
Vanilla tastes nothing like lemon :p

Just make sure you don't get the Vanilla Pepsi, that is nasty...

[tab]
09-11-2004, 02:56 AM
First time I tried vanilla Coke I loved it... after that it got a bit sickly.

Chroder
09-11-2004, 03:23 AM
No! You speak lies!

ian
09-11-2004, 03:54 AM
lies, damned lies, next thing he will be criticizing your frappuccino's

AainaA
09-11-2004, 05:23 AM
i love my frapps... and starbucks is my playground when it comes to tooting off my new toy :D

anyways, anyone into wine or champagne or something less "drunkish"?

ian
09-11-2004, 05:36 AM
champagne yuk, wine double yuk....I have no class whatsoever :p

ian
09-11-2004, 05:37 AM
oh yeah and I have never been to a starbucks before, though we have quite a few of them here in Australia. I think I would like frappuccino's.

[tab]
09-11-2004, 12:43 PM
Champagne/wine is horrible... ewww. I think I'd like those iced cap thingies as well.

zkiller
09-11-2004, 03:04 PM
wine probes are fun! some wine's i can drink and actually enjoy, but i have a hard time finding those.

expresso is good to... but it comes in to small of a cup! :( i ordered a cappucino at some place in virginia and the cup they gave me was the size, if not bigger, than my breakfast bowls! :eek:

Chroder
09-11-2004, 03:16 PM
Next time anyone is in Canada, you have to get the iced caps :p Maybe I should send them out to you :p

AainaA
09-11-2004, 03:48 PM
what are iced capped thingies - i'm so..... ignorant here about these things, and Ian, class is not being about abling to guggle wine/champagne - its more than just that :)

AainaA
09-11-2004, 03:51 PM
expresso is good to... but it comes in to small of a cup!
hehe espresso is just that - its very thick coffee for speed/quikie relief for your caffein addiction :D that's why its in small cups - last week alone I had 8 double espressos and had a terrible hangover - at least now i know you don't necessarily get od on things fermented ;)

zkiller
09-11-2004, 07:08 PM
exactly... caffein addiction! that's why the cup should be bigger! :p

Chroder
09-11-2004, 08:46 PM
Mmmm
http://web.chroder.com/files_chroder/misc/images/09-11-2004_icedcap.jpg

ian
09-11-2004, 11:08 PM
food doesnt last long enough with me to be taking photo's of it
so know I know what a Timmies IceCap is.
Im thirsty now..

zkiller
09-12-2004, 04:11 AM
great ian... now i am hungry again.

AainaA
09-12-2004, 03:34 PM
euh Z.... you're always hungry when it comes to ... anyways, when are you NEVER hungry? when you're full? or satisfied? :p

pipit
09-14-2004, 02:05 PM
Hi everyone!!! first post here :)
mmmhh.... getting thirsty here.....Oooohhh, that's the ice-cap you, canadian means. seems delicious.....^Yummy
I myself never drink alcohol. *forbidden*
I'm a big fan of coffee and chocolate
but I always enjoy making my own-cappucino/moccacino or hot-indonesian-traditionall drink. u can arrange/mix/ anything u want to make
my fave-easiest one=cappucino instant+water+iced+banana= blender it, than put it on glass, add waffer/chocolate there. ^yummy

AainaA
09-14-2004, 03:06 PM
hiya pipit! great to see you join us here at wdf! {Ian, did you notice the acronym of this forum?}


banana? mine used to be

pitted dates + milk + ice + blend = sumptious throughout the year
until i discovered the delicacy of .... :p

later,

ian
09-14-2004, 08:34 PM
hi pipit, welcome....
{Ian, did you notice the acronym of this forum?}
Yep, at least it is not wmd.

zkiller
09-14-2004, 10:00 PM
wdf... hmmm... yup, i noticed it also. thought it would have been funny if it was wtf instead! :D

ian
09-14-2004, 10:25 PM
what da %$#@?

AainaA
09-15-2004, 05:00 AM
if only i could upload my roar of laughter... it would rock the net! you guys are insane!

zkiller
09-15-2004, 01:16 PM
you guys are insane!
yes, indeed, that we are! :cool:

AainaA
09-15-2004, 03:56 PM
i would have to second that - now that you've discovered you're all insanely insane, what trend are you going to trailblaze for 2005? giveaways please...

zkiller
09-15-2004, 04:26 PM
i would be more than happy to exept some giveaways! :D

i have always known that i am crazy! :p

AainaA
09-15-2004, 04:47 PM
LOL .... nooooooooo what i meant was your ideas for making the less insane miserable :p
what would it be that you'd do to make it pitiable for them :D

zkiller
09-15-2004, 06:51 PM
they already are pitiable, as they aren't one of us! :cool:

AainaA
09-15-2004, 09:52 PM
LOL! You're mean :p

zkiller
09-15-2004, 10:13 PM
i am not mean, just being honest. :D

AainaA
09-15-2004, 10:32 PM
yeah you would have to, to them wouldn't you... now they'll just hide in their closet and refuse to come out and play :D