reynoldsdigital

If your starting out then do it for the learning experience but get you terms of reference down or they will demand huge amounts of work, and of course free upgrades! $200 is nothing, you won't make a living from that, if she was shocked then she's trying to play you or just very dum.

Say your price and stick to it, if they want it cheaper don't reduce the price, just cut back the service. The time spent meeting her has to be paid for so $100 should have covered that assuming it was half a day.

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brynmuzika

Hi, what do you mean by "terms of reference" is it a Contract? Inside that contract are the limitations of work right? I made a contract with my client, but I think it was lacking that's why maybe they're just playing me. It was stated in that contract about the project cost, terms, and short rules. I'm not good in technical writing. Where can I find sample contracts for web designing? If you can give me some. Thanks

brynmuzika

yes I agree on that, but my client only paid me a $100 for THREE websites(20 or more pages) w/o CMS but hand purely coded PHP with client side coding. Very frustrating.

And here's the latest experience that added my frustrations. He just asked me for some revisions on the site AGAIN for the 4th time. This time it becomes worst coz' he want's me to re-design the logo(AGAIN), put some more colors, and upload pictures for his products. Do we really have to do that as web developers??? I think I did too much, I was the one who took pictures of their products, image processing, site maintenance, and some add-ons for that 3 websites coz' they asked me to do it all by myself. IT'S TOO MUCH!! And for a $100 project cost for the THREE websites. Then he called me I am such a LIAR coz' I really started these websites as our school project and I didn't finish it right away for I was still studying while developing the site. He called me a LIAR coz' he think I took for granted of the project which is not true.

That was such a bad experience for me, but I won't give up.

darrenfox

I always like to compare the cost of the Yellow Pages. People are paying more than $200 just to have their name and phone number listed. Check out this website for example:
http://www.entrepreneur.com/advertis...icle83110.html

Now do you think a website is worth more than a 1" advertisement that receives far less exposure than the potential the worldwide web has. Oh, and that ad usually only lasts a year. Take that $200, and multiple it by 10 at least. How you sell yourself has more to do with the cost than your actual skill level.

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brynmuzika

I just want to clear this to you guys, my clients and I had an agreement of a $200 project cost for THREE(3) websites. Can you imagine that? They already paid me 90% , but because of what they said to me that I am a "LIAR" and some words that disappoints me I can't swallow my pride anymore. I have to close the project. This is too much! Can't help it anymore. And I'm not after for that remaining 10% balance to be paid for me coz' it's nothing. Rather have more practice and study more to be proficient so that when time comes that I will be ready to work on another project, I already know my price and work appropriately.

Am I doing right? Nyone?

By the way, thanks for your helpful advises. I really appreciate all of those.

chrisbkrh

Yes sometimes you have to walk. Especially if the client keeps asking for more work.

Next time set the expectations of the client before hand so that if there are requests that fall outside of the parameters set forth from the beginning you can collect extra charges.

Also, collect half upfront before even starting.

I just landed a freelance project for an aquaintance of mine.
Home page, 6 subsequent pages, wordpress CMS.
$1000 (if I didn't know the guy I'd charge $1500)

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brynmuzika

@chrisbkrh: Thanks, you were right I really have to prepare my contract form next time with estimated work limitations, project time frame, and etc. But as what I've said unfortunately I'm not good at technical writing(gotta research more on that.). Ei, if any client of mine happens to be my friend, relative of mine or even someone else as long as that client has a good attitude, then will ask me for a discount, WHY NOT? But the fact is we really don't know who they are.

By the way I just viewed your website. Very inspiring to me. I really love to master flash websites but I have to master CSS first.

egofirm

Competition dude, competition! hehe

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podolux

Before you start the next project try to prepare a Terms & Conditions for your work. Take 50% as an advance payment just after a client's agreement about the layout and design. Make a price list on your website and explain there what is included in the base price (how many pages, photos, modules, etc). For more than that you can charge per hour or per webpage.
If your work is good enough, client will pay.
For the portfolio you can make some example pages, to show what you can do.
Do not cry about the money you just got, that happens to many web-designers.
Best wishes.

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brynmuzika

Thanks, that's very inspiring. Actually I'm preparing those things but my problem right now is my own website I still don't have a domain, though currently I'm working on with my portfolios and reading books as my reference. Gotta save money first to get my own domain. hehe

Thanks